Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, fellow sun listeners, the happiest, happiest, happiest of New Year’s. I, for one, am completely jazzed about this new 2025 that we have ahead of us. I don’t know about your 2024.

Mine was positive, it was happy, it was healthy. But I know so many people struggled, and for that, I’m sorry. And I hope for those of you that I’m speaking to here, I hope 2025 brings a little bit more excitement and cheer into your life.

Speaking of cheer, I could not be more excited for our episode and guest today. And we’ll get to that in just a second. Allow me to introduce myself.

My name is Eric Nutting. I’m the owner of the Growth Coach of St. Petersburg, Florida. I’m the founder of the Sage Approach, and we get to meet with you fine listeners about once a month and bring a new sun leader to you today.

My guest is Mary Kay Sturtevant, and I usually let my guest kind of introduce themselves to you so they can present themselves as they want you to know them. But there’s so much that we have to talk about today, and Mary Kay is in front of me. She has a bunch of articles and so much to share with you today.

So let me just toss it over to you. Mary, thank you so much for being here. We’ve had a chance to get to know each other a little bit more here in the last couple weeks.

We did this beautiful therapeutic walk through the gardens, and I got to really know you a bit more to your soul. So, first of all, welcome. Happy New Year.

Tell our listeners what you want them to know right now about who you are and what you do. Okay, Aloha, folks. Aloha.

We do the Aloha Laughter exercise in one of our groups. Nice. I’m the cheerwoman of the board in HTML Health through music and laughter.

Yes. And my basis is spiritually centered. I do a variety of activities.

I have several interests. And I speak play. And I mean play.

Give out red clown noses to audience participants and we laugh. We become like little kids. Well, let’s dig into this right now because I told you before we got on mic, HTML healing through music and laughter.

How clever I thought that was. And most people will know HTML through computer speak, right? Hypertext markup language, which is essential for creating and structuring web pages. And the coding kind of brings all this language together in various elements together to create a functional encoding incoherent whole, a coherent whole is interesting as we Think about the work you do with healing through music and laughter, because it really speaks to the cellular level of a human being, doesn’t it? And
it kind of helps shape that chaos when we’re thinking of music and laughter and healing.

Yes, which is why you do what you do now. But there’s a huge story behind this, and some of these articles speak to that. Do you want to kind of take us to the beginning of what started this experience of joy and laughter and what you do? I would love to.

So I’ve lived in Florida about 40 years, but in March of 02, I was traveling down Gulf Boulevard in Reddington beach in my convertible and I got hit by a bulldozer. My life came to a screeching halt. And at that time, I look back and see where I just read the Prayer of Jabez.

For about a week. I was asking for more territory, and now it stopped. My parents were visiting, I was doing fundraising, a few different businesses at the time, and it was shocking.

Yes. So a very good friend of mine invited me to go attend this music school that was starting soon, and she’s a gifted musician. And I said, there’s no way possible I can do this.

And she said, well, just look at the application. And when I did, I realized that everything I had done in my whole life brought me to this point. I come from a musical family.

I’ve sang in choirs and bands and. And solo. I’ve won talent shows.

So my artistic side is really flourishing. When you mention the HTML, I laugh because when I have to sit in front of a computer, that’s not me. I know you mentioned that a few days ago.

That, you know, the computer, sitting in front of the computer almost feels like prison to you, Right? Right. You want to be out sharing energy with people, helping them kind of find their joy in their soul and in their day, Right? Absolutely. Pre accident, almost 23 years ago, would you say that was a core of your nature? Were you a happy, joyous person? Yes, very, very free.

And I was 45, I believe, when that happened. So that’s not really new to your nature. In fact, it probably helped you through the accident and healing from the accident, didn’t it? This.

This pre accident sort of approach to life, did that help you? Yes. And it maybe was the doorway to being able to heal through. Now, a good friend who shared these therapies with you.

Right. Okay. So now we’ve been at this for maybe 22, 23 years.

It’s been a journey. I’m sure you continue to Build instruments and skills in this. But you have various certifications.

Talk to me about some of these certifications. What does it mean to be a certified laugh Laughter Leader? Laughter leader. What is that? What is this? What does the certification for that look like? Okay.

So that was a weekend course that my music colleagues at Bayfront, who we’d studied and played music with for three or four years, we just took that to lighten our lives, and that’s why I combined the two. But what I was mentioning before, how I got into that, I had looked at all the things I had done in my life, and I’m trained as an addictions counselor. I’ve been athletic and musical, and I’ve worked in a lot of different things.

Right. So I just thought, this is what I’m really supposed to do. So I’m going to do it and see.

04. I had my neck surgery, and I was in school at that time. And it’s called H Healing Through Music Transition Program.

Okay. And I’m a CMP certified music practitioner, so I’m trained to play music with people from birth to death. Yes.

And I prefer playing with dolphins and babies because they don’t know language. You mentioned dolphins a lot. And I want to get back to the healing part, but tell me about your relationship with dolphins.

All right. So I lived in John’s Path, about 10 docks down from Don’s dock on the boardwalk. And I realized because I’m a sun lover and swimmer, that when I would make noise, the dolphins would come.

It was as simple as tapping my keys using a rain stick that I had made. And they continued to come. And then I started singing to them, intentionally communing, you know, wondering if they could be will be here today.

And then saying, yes, the dolphins will be here today. And they returned every day. They wanted to play.

They waited for me at my dock, and they knew when I was coming home. So we had many beautiful interactions. I’d be playing my native American flute, and they’d be following the dolphin sightseeing boat, and they would come to me, and they would dance, they would jump as if it was a choreographed dance.

It was magically beautiful. And you still visit dolphins? I do, yeah. You did just this last week, didn’t you? Is it a daily thing or a weekly thing for you now? It all depends.

Whenever I’m near the water. Okay. Which is frequently.

I frequent the water as much as I can. Right. But we were on a boat about a week ago.

Oh, nice. So as far as the dolphins go, were you ever Ever able to differentiate between who was who in the dolphin world? Oh, yes. My four best friends were Split Fin, Phil, Dot, and Tommy.

And Split Fin, he was a funny boy, and I’ve known him about 30 years. He had a jag in his fin and. And he’s stayed around John’s past waters all those years.

And Dot was a spiritual mentor of mine. When she passed on, this dolphin, Dot came all the time and waved her tail at me. I did a eulogy with her son on my dock, and a dolphin came and waved the tail.

And then the one that always came and waved the tail was Dot. How did you know about Dot’s passing? Right. How were you made aware of her passing? Yeah.

She was a dolphin woman herself. From Passa Grail. Yes.

And. Ah, ah, ah. Gotcha.

Yes. Okay. Well, there’s.

So I. I told everybody when we started this conversation, there’s so much to cover. And in just that little sharing that you did there, there’s so many different things we can talk about. We talked about flutes.

We talked about rain sticks. We talked about dolphins. But you said you made your own rain stick.

You make your own rain sticks. Talk process. What is that like? Okay.

That rain stick that I played mostly is called the big bamboo. Okay. It’s three and a half feet of bamboo, about the size, width of your arm.

And I’ve led a workshop on how to build these. It’s tool intensive because you drill holes in it, you put things inside of it, and it does a spiral dance as you turn the rainstick end to end. But you can play it like percussion, shake it sideways, or you can turn it slowly.

And then it’s a meditative. So we start out with what type of wood? Bamboo. Bamboo.

So are rainsticks always bamboo or just your rainsticks? Bamboo. How does it work, do you know? I know there’s other indigenous instruments, and I made one of a gourd. One day I traveled across to Palatka to the gourd festival to buy gourds just for that.

Wow. And I traveled back in the Ocala National Forest in the dark at night. I wouldn’t recommend that.

That was dark and scary. But you had your rainstick. Yes.

So here we have this rainstick that you brought with you. What do you put inside the bamboo to make the noise? I put different things from the earth until I get the right sound. Really? Yes.

And you must cut the end cap so one end is solid. Okay. This is a knuckle.

A knuckle on the bamboo. And then you have to break through these other knuckles. And then after you put your dowels in your drill holes.

Put dowels in it. See the dots? It’s doing a dance down that spiral staircase. And it sounds a little like this.

And I add voice to it, too. Well, that’s beautiful. First of all, it looks beautiful.

The sound is mesmerizing. Talk to me about what you feel is a therapeutic feeling of a rainstick. It’s very vibrational.

And, you know, we’re all vibration. We’re all energy. But when I hold this and turn it, I can feel the exact vibration flowing from one arm high and the other arm low.

And I can feel it in my heart. Aha. It resonates with the cells in my body.

Yes. That’s a key, isn’t it? It is. And when you do this work with others, then do they have their own rain stick as well? Is that a key component? Well, not necessarily.

I just coached a woman in joy coaching, and we each had our own rain sticks. Okay. But many times I will play four people as a therapeutic musician, so I will see what type of music that they need.

There’s different types of types. You play for physical rehabilitation, emotional healing at the end of life. So I will know about who it is before I go in, and then I have to read this situation and know what to play for whom and how long.

Okay. And you know that by feel, by spirit, by. By intuition.

By intuition. And I watch their breathing, I watch their chest, I watch their face, their hands. And I had a really interesting experience when I played with a native American round drum that I played on the cardiac unit in Bayfront.

And I wanted to try an experiment playing one beat per second like a metronome. And I did that. And sometimes the medical profession can be skeptical about healing music or holistic remedies.

And I think they were until they saw the heart monitors changed. The patients were actually in training to that beat of the drum. And to see more than one patient do that, very, very interesting.

All right, so we have a lot of tools, a lot of instruments. You yourself, I would consider an instrument, right? Yes. A spiritual being.

And you use all this in my thought process in a healing way. And yet I read. I don’t know if that article’s with us here in front of you, but I read in an article about you that you don’t consider yourself a healer.

You consider yourself to be a conduit. Am I right on that? Right. And that was.

I don’t know how long ago that interview was, but it was More than a few years ago. Do you still feel that to be true? I do. I feel like I’m an instrument playing an instrument, especially with the flute.

Because that flute, I call it the prayer flute and dolphin flute, it has miraculous sound, vibration, intention behind it, and results. People relax with it. So I had the chance to listen to you play a little bit.

You led the Sun Leaders in an exercise which was brilliant. Talk to me about your relationship with the flute. Right now you can’t play because we’re trying to rehabilitate your hand, Right? Correct.

But talk to me about this relationship you’ve had with the flute. When did it start and why is it so important to you? All right. My friend Julie gifted that to me in, I think, 2004.

Wow. 20 years ago. I’ve been playing it, and she had many flutes, but it just went with where I lived in John’s Pass.

And I played that flute on the dock. And it was. It would bring beauty.

It would bring. People could relax with it. That it was calling the dolphins.

It was communing with them, and it was quite magical. We call it the magical flute. So we definitely want to get back to playing the flute after your hand is recuperated.

Right? Right. Okay. Unless it’s healed first.

Because I had carpal tunnel at one point of my life and this. And I might have been from shaking the rain stick like that too much and drumming and doing many things, but they recommended surgery for the carpal tunnel. And I would put my wrists together in the shower and do sound therapy on my wrists, and they were healed.

No surgery needed. Really? Yes. Wow.

All right. So we have plenty of things we can still talk about, but I want to make sure we get to some of these articles you have in front of you. Talk me through these a little bit.

Because now as we think about the work you’ve done post accident in therapy, we’ve got about 23 years of experiences. What do you have in front of you here? All right. I did something called play shops.

Yes. Which were interactive groups where we did, you know, we were adults. We remembered to be kids.

We played. We did contagious laughter exercises. We would do laughter drumming.

One team would go, ho, ho, ho. The other team would go, ha, ha, ha with our drums. And it’s kind of a rhythm circle and a circle to release, to play.

Singing and toning. You know, toning is just actually sounds that we make to feel better. When you hear somebody laying in bed and they go, oh, they’re toning.

So. So their body would Feel better. And at Bayfront for about five years, we had a sound healing group, a toning group in the chapel every Friday afternoon.

And that was wonderful for patients, for healthcare professionals. Everyone can benefit from it. Let’s just kind of pause there and let’s talk about the laughter component.

Because you’re saying, hey, listen, this laughter stuff, it’s not about being a comedian and belly laughing. You’re suggesting that laughter should be an exercise for therapy. Right.

It kind of brings a rhythm to our body and our soul and our consciousness. Am I accurate on this? Well, it’s all how you use it. Okay.

You know, and it’s not comedy. It’s getting people to interact in a circle. So I teach them a little bit about contagious laughter therapy.

Find a partner. We’re going to do this movement. And a lot of people come in as skeptics, you know, what’s this? Laughter therapy? And then they find that it works.

They go out and they’ve written testimonies. Like, I came with my daughter, and I was a big skeptic, but we. We went home laughing, and I had a healing laughter club where we’d meet every other week for an hour.

And that really. That changes you, because one time you can laugh, you know, be at a group for an hour. And that’s good.

But we’re adults, and we need to hear something many times over to remember it, to get that, you know, in our soul. And then I teach the therapeutic use of humor, how it affects your body and then the spirit of laughter. There’s so much involved in it.

Okay, so we have the contagious. You mentioned three components. Contagious laughter.

Right. Contagious laughter exercises that motion creates emotion. Okay, what was.

What else did we have? I do some education. Yes. Different parts of the body that benefit, like the ho, ho, ho comes from the belly.

Talk to me about that. Okay. There’s three sounds of laughter that are universal.

If you hear somebody in a foreign airport and they say, oh, you know, they’re laughing, they’re having fun. Those are the universal sounds of laughter. So we place our hands on our belly.

If you’ll join me. Okay. We’ll do a few ho, ho, hos.

Okay. How low can you go? All right. And then we.

We act like kids. We put on red clown noses. And just the joy and the moment, you know, like, laughter is contagious.

And the best part about laughing is when you’re laughing, you cannot think. You’re giving your mind a little vacation. And as adults, we become too serious.

We have hardening of the attitudes. We dry up, you know, and getting back to the other sounds. The haha is the heart.

Yeah, You really do feel it resonate right there, don’t you? Yes. And 70% of our immune system is in the abdomen. So doing those daily ho hos and hahas are helping your health.

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So talk to me about a daily routine as we think about laughter. Okay, so we have things to remind each other. We have a glow group.

We G stands for gratitude. Five minutes of gratitude, five minutes of laughter and five minutes of, oh, open heartedness. We might focus on a song like Open the eyes of my heart.

Open the eyes of my heart. I want to see you, I want to be you. So that’s a practice, you know, ingrained.

And I started this doing it again during COVID at 8:30 each morning, saying what I’m grateful for with others on a zoom group for five minutes and then laughing just like we did. The more people you have, the merrier it gets because sometimes I’ll try to stop people from laughing and we go, ho ho, ha ha ha. That’s our manta ra.

But when it’s wildly contagious laughter, people don’t even hear that. They don’t stop. It’s just automatic on and on and on.

Like I’ve had groups of 30, 40, and even a hundred people laughing and sounding together. And that’s the real, the real joy in the moment. So does it ever get out of control? Oh yeah, but it’s not bad out of control.

You don’t feel like it. You don’t feel this need to rain in the back, you know? Right. No, stop that laughter.

I got stuff to say. I mean, as a leader, I have to keep it sort of in control. Never to say, listen to me kids.

So you lead groups, you lead individuals. I know that in May we have national World Laughter Day. We have World Laughter Day.

How did this originate? What is your relationship with World Laughter Day? Okay. And what’s planned for this year? Hmm. And what did you do last year? Tell me about World Laughter Day.

As much as you know. All right. So World Laughter Day is the first Sunday in May.

Okay. And it’s a global celebration of vibration. I love that.

So in India, Dr. Katari used to write prescriptions, and he’d give them to his patients, laugh for 15 minutes a day. Wow. That’s what I’m talking about.

The daily design of laughing. And they ran. They would try to tell jokes, and they’d run out of jokes.

So then they started meeting outdoors, and they started doing these contagious laughter exercises. Thus becomes, you know, components of World Laughter Day. Nice things we can do to get out of ourself, to get out of our mind, the critical mind, into the joyful mind.

You know, we must become like little children to enter the kingdom of heaven. And we have to remember how to do that. I mean, kids are so full of energy and fun, spontaneous to be around when.

When we get to be adults, we really need retraining. Absolutely. Yeah.

So I’ve done many of these events. I’ve done them in Florida and New York, where the mayor will proclaim the city for World Laughter Day. For the city to be a lighter place to work, live and enjoy and to keep laughter at the forefronts of our mind.

And we sign a beautifully written proclamation with the mayor probably two weeks prior to May. And then we invite people to come and gather together and laugh. And in our format, we have certain songs that we sing.

Like we have the national Anthem of laughter. There’s National Anthem of Laughter, all right. But one of my favorite songs, we sing, and it’s real easy.

It goes to the tune of Shortening Bread. Every little cell in my body is happy Every little cell in my body is well Every little cell in my body is happy Every little cell in my body is well, feels so good Every little cell in my body is happy and well, feels so good Every little cell in my body is happy and well so it’s pretty hard not to smile doing that. It is.

Right, Right. You know, now that you’re telling me all this, I think we’ve known each other for about a year, because I remember World Laughter Day was coming up when you led us as sun leaders. Where were you last World Laughter Day? Last World Laughter Day, I did an event in St. Petersburg.

And the World Laughter Day before that, I did two events. I did one at sacred lands and one at a condo for about 25 people average. But I’d like to do something very big this year.

Yes. Yes. I think.

Don’t you think after the year 2024 with double hurricanes and all the election Talk and many challenges people have had. I’d say inflationary wise, it’s really a time to regroup, rethink, revive, and stay alive in 2025. I thought it was thrive.

It’s stay alive. So here we are in January, so world after days in May. And you do have big plans for this year? I do.

Well, I have initiated them, yes. And envisioning them. I think my thought for the year is insight.

To have insight. Okay. And just have the best World Laughter Day ever.

I’ve done a couple for the city of Madeira beach, where I live 23 years. Charlie Parker was the mayor at 1, and Mayor Schontz. Pat Schontz was the mayor there, declaring the city.

And the one celebration I can even remember was so great, it lasted about two hours. A lot of my music colleagues were there, locals were there, laughter leaders. My friend that puts on huge events.

She was the emcee. And at the end, I mean, we had a. A wonderful ceremony, and it was a sunset celebration.

So it started, you know, two hours before that. And the joy that came of that area changed a political hotspot actually, at that time. And the dolphins came at the very end.

And so I. I envisioned that, created it, promoted it, and presented it. Mm. Mm.

So this year we hope to have something in locally that we can all attend. Something in St. Pete. Yes.

And we want every mayor in our general area to endorse it. That’d be great. That’d be kind of cool, wouldn’t it? Yes.

I was just thinking of the mayor of St. Pete, but Mayor Ken Welsh, if you’re listening. Yes, that’d be great. You mentioned sacred lands, and I remember reading about sacred lands a little bit.

Can you tell our listeners a little bit about sacred lands and what it is and what it means to you? Oh, yes. Sacred Lands is a historical site in St. Pete. It’s a very spiritual land, and my friends actually live on it, the Andersons.

I’ve been going there since the late 90s. It’s a great place for the community, and they do tours of the land. And it’s got historical value, not only back to 1548, when the Spaniards came and took over the Tocabagas that lived there back then.

It’s actually in history books, but to this date, it’s been a great addition to our city. And unfortunately, they’ve had very bad results from the hurricanes. Oh, no.

Yes. So they’re rebuilding. They need all the love and donations possible to get that three acres back to the way it was.

And every Every month they have coffee houses, so they offer this. And then actually In October of 01, right after 9, 11, we started a world peace meditation circle there, three of us. And that’s been going on every Wednesday since October of 01.

Oh, my goodness. And here we are in 25. So you talked about the damage to these three acres, but they’re still able to receive people, to have people there? Yes, for the meditation.

For the meditations. Gotcha. Okay.

But the other opportunities there that lays in that beautiful historical spiritual land will take time to rebuild. And prayer. So definitely listeners can share their energy in prayer.

What else would be a call to action to help Sacred lands? It’s a non profit, so any way they can donate. I know that they need financial support and anything. I know they need manpower too.

Okay, yes. Great. So I think that starts to kind of connect some of these dots with how you became the person in front of me.

And I think when I think about the work you do, obviously we’re trying to connect human spirits and human beings through that vibrational energy that we have, through joy and through healing and through laughter. But a big portion of your work is helping people in pain. Yes.

Helping people transition. Let’s talk about that a little bit. Okay.

What is that like? How is your relationship in that process? Is it draining for you? How do you recover from it? Talk to me about that. Well, there’s a certain way I would always go to prayer and go to meditation before I play for somebody that’s eminent. And I would do that in the chapel.

If I’m playing it, say hospice or wherever I’m going to go. I pray everywhere, every day, in every way. So to be even more respectful and conscious of them and their surroundings and this time of life, it’s like the past and the present, so.

And releasing them to their future. Yes, yes. The people that you serve and help in this area as a conduit in energy and spirit, do you know them ahead of time? Do you have a relationship with these people ahead of time? Some I do and some I don’t.

Okay. How do you get involved in a person’s life then do somebody hear about your work and they go, oh, we really need you for this? Yes, I’ve been called to that situation where word of mouth, or if I was, I did an internship at hospice where I played there for a year. So then I was called on at different times.

The most beautiful part is it not only helps the patient that we’re speaking of, but it helps their family adjust with change. Be at peace. And the staff.

I can remember one time coming in with my flute case on one shoulder and the rain stick on the other. And I just watched this one rn her shoulders just relax just at the thought of it. So, yeah, it’s multi layered.

I think it’s a beautiful gift. It’s a beautiful gift you share with people. But I think it’s really.

It seems like there’s this broad spectrum of the emotional journey that you cover. We’re helping people through laughter therapy and then we’re here with them at the end of life, helping them transition to whatever’s next. That’s a huge.

If you’re looking at this in a linear way, that’s a long line, isn’t it? It is. It’s a huge spectrum, for sure. So do you personally then have to get back to some form of laughter therapy for yourself after an emotional journey like that? I usually like to write.

Okay. And that’s part of my process. You know, I was an addictions counselor and I had certain exercises that I’d like to use and one of them was write what happened.

And number two, what am I feeling? Number three, what’s the truth? Number four, what are my choices? But if I’m processing someone’s transition, I just might write feelings. Just feelings. And to release that, you can’t take that on, so to speak.

So it takes time for sure. I said there was a lot to talk about and our time has gone fast. We have just a few minutes left and I want to make sure that the audience has a chance to know everything or as much as we can share that you want to share with them that we haven’t shared.

What have we not covered that is really important to you that you want to tell people about? Oh, all right. Probably. I do one on one music therapy.

I do group sound journeys. I’d like to do more playing for colleges and say educating nurses to what sound therapy does. I’ve done that at some colleges.

And then to have cooperation in the community, you know, to do speaking about it and when you’re doing many times a conference. I did a mental health conference that was so successful with a hundred people. Wow.

Sound and laughter therapy and doing more of that. And in the corporate world too, we can do laughter drumming. Many people are interested in drumming.

And in the corporate world you really need laughter therapy. So we can do our one hour sessions or weekly sessions to get our balance back, you know, especially since last year. So sometimes I do like pilot projects, 10 weeks consecutive to change your attitude to Change your being and your life and your destiny just to have that joyous spirit.

Whereas when I used to get mad at something, I can laugh about it, I can let it go. You know, I’ve done things called like laughter is the love of God. I did once for the church and I’m doing another one this pre Valentine’s Day.

Ah, lovely. Yes. Laughter and love.

And when we were doing the back to the sounds, the ho ho, the ha ha and the he, that’s the high sound in the head, we didn’t get to the hehe, did we? No, we didn’t get to the he, oh ho ha. And we sprinkle peace. We speak of peace on ourselves and others.

Like peace, peace, peace. So that’s a flow. And the.

The sounds travel like ho ho, haha, he he from low to high and do with someone I’m coaching right now. We do like a vocalise. We do from high to low.

We would might make a sound like. So there’s all kinds of ways to use sound in your life to make you feel better and to make others feel better. Well, it does make me feel better.

Just making the sounds does. And sharing this energy with you makes me feel better. So I can imagine the power of it when we think of the opportunity to work in groups.

But to be clear, you can work with individuals and you can work with groups. Now, what is the best way for people to reach you, to get ahold of you if they want to know more and figure out how to work with you? Well, my email typically is laughingmarykmail.com Laughing M A R Y letter K. Or you can phone me or text me.

And My number is 727-698-0750. When we were doing our weekly laughter, people would call me and just laugh and we would do that to each other because you might be in this very serious mode and listening to all your messages and just hearing somebody laugh, what a blessing. That’s kind of fun.

It is. So, yes, I look forward to hearing from people. People get more imaginative and happier and just.

I do custom groups, you know, for birthday parties. For 50th birthday party, I did a great one. Any type of group that we can combine laughter and music.

I think it’s really interesting because as a business coach, where I was telling people, you have to narrow, you know, the target audience you’re trying to reach. But really for you, anybody who needs joy, anybody who needs healing, we can do this through laughter. We can reach anyone, can’t we? We can.

I love that. All right. Well, this has been an absolute pleasure.

I want you to tell the people who you are, the name of your company one more time and then I’ll go ahead and close it out. All right? And I wanted to say Philippians 4:13, all these things are possible through God who strengthens me. And my Phone number is 727-698-0750.

And you are? Mary Kay Sturtevant, creator of HTML Health Through Music and Laughter. My email is Laughing Mary Kmail. There you have it, sun listeners.

Please reach out to Mary, Mary Kay. And as always, I want to thank you for joining us today and listening. We do encourage you to engage with us, leave a comment like our program and certainly subscribe.

My name is Eric Nutting, owner of the Growth Coach of St. Petersburg, Florida, here with another edition of the Sun Leaders podcast. Until next time, enjoy your life. Sa.